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When One Speaks in Tongues, Must it Always be in a Human Language?

October 28, 2013 | by: Sam Storms| 8 Comments

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marcos

Nov 2, 2013

Hello Dwayne is there a email I can contact you?

marcos

Nov 2, 2013

Hello Dwayne is there a email I can contact you?

Maik

Oct 29, 2013

Thanks for this explanation! I first heard of you from Dr. Brown- on your "strange Fire" discussion. God bless you for the "biblical" explanation. I like it more when the bible is quoted to explain instead of quoting Calvin, Wesley etc. or a past tradition. Thanks again! I'll keep visiting your site for more spiritual nourishment! Blessings!

Johnny

Oct 29, 2013

Another helpful argument is the way that Paul does not mention the need for interpretation with prophecy. However, if the situation envisioned by cessationists, is that Corinth was simply a multi-lingual community then even prophecy needs interpreted as only those whose language the prophecy was given in would be able to understand the message.. Paul does not see the need for prophecy to be interpreted, just tongues.

The only situation that plausibly suits the teaching of Paul in 1 Corinthians 14 is a church that has a common earthly tongue which prophecies would have been given in with tongues being an unknown tongue to all.

Sam

Oct 28, 2013

Remember him? He was my pastoral and theological mentor for more than 15 years and his portrait hangs above my desk (I guess you could say he oversees all I do as a pastor!). So I love him and greatly respect him, but in terms of what you posted from his sermon, I completely disagree. There isn't a single biblical text that supports the distinction he makes between temporary and permanent spiritual gifts. Not one. I don't have time to respond to everything he says, but I have responded in great detail in two of my books, The Beginner's Guide to Spiritual Gifts (Regal) and in my contribution to Are Miraculous Gifts for Today? Four Views (Zondervan). I'll have to refer you to those. If you'll read what I wrote there, I'll be happy to resume this conversation.

Ed

Oct 28, 2013

Thanks you for your compelling points from Scripture, they are much appreciated! I do have a question...I attend a reformed church that believes and practices the continuation of the miraculous gifts. I have a desire to speak in tongues and have prayed for it as well as have been prayed for to receive it. I have not received it, should I take this as God's will that I don't or shall i still persistently pray for them? My desire for them has not changed but I don't want my desire to cloud my discernment for what God would have for me..Thanks in advance for your guidance, God bless you and your ministry!
-Ed

Dwayne

Oct 28, 2013

Sam, please comment on this from a sermon by S. Lewis Johnson. I'm sure you remember him as I remember you preaching once about the death of his wife and I was amazed when you said that she was in heaven and wouldn't come back if she could. What a glorious effect that had on my spiritual life.

"Now the history of the church with reference to spiritual gifts is characterized by two periods. That is, there is a period of temporary and permanent gifts in operation. Now the temporary gifts were confirmatory and revelatory. The permanent gifts were regulatory or, I don’t even know how to pronounce that [Laughter], edificatory an Australian would say, I know. But let me stop and explain what I mean by this. In the early days of the church men had the gift of tongues, men had the gift of miracles, men had the gift of healings, men had the gift of prophecy. But those gifts died out. Some of them were confirmatory, like prophecy and tongues; they were designed to confirm the message that was given. When the apostles preached the word these gifts took place in order to confirm the fact that God the Holy Spirit was with them. Some of them were revelatory like prophecy. For, you see, the local church did not have a New Testament. They met and all they had was the Old Testament. Now they weren’t poor because they had the Old Testament but there were some things that were not in the Old Testament. Spiritual gifts, for example, you won’t find that in the Old Testament. You won’t find instructions regarding the offices of elder, and deacon, and many other things which the New Testament has given us. What would the church do when it did not have a Bible which contained the New Testament? Well, God gave prophets. Now prophets are men who receive a message directly from God and give it to people like Agabus in the New Testament. And Philip, the evangelist, had some daughters who also prophesied.

In other words it was their responsibility to give direct instruction to the church of Jesus Christ. There were also the gifts of wisdom and knowledge. Now the gifts of wisdom and knowledge were temporary gifts. Nobody has that gift today. They were gifts which enabled a man in the local church to give instruction from God on significant things in the local church when they did not have a New Testament. In other words, the truth of 1st Corinthians chapter 5, for example, and chapter 6, since that is not found anywhere in the Bible, so to speak, then men were given certain gifts; wisdom, knowledge, prophecy. And the Holy Spirit led them as the church met to give instruction on these points. So gifts were confirmatory like miracles and tongues. They were revelatory like prophecy, wisdom, knowledge and so on.

Now there were also permanent gifts such as teaching, pastor-teacher, government, helps, ruling, etcetera. Some of them were regulatory like the gifts an elder might have. Some were edificatory like teaching which might be an elder’s gift or it might not be a teacher’s gift, it might not be an elder’s gift. Then after this early period of time, and by the way we do not have any historical record of, for example, anyone speaking in tongues from the early days, at least from about Tertullian’s day until the 19th Century.

In other words, that gift passed out of existence because its practical use was over. Now at this time and the period that we live in I have called a period of permanent gifts. And I am classifying these permanent gifts in two ways; utterance gifts, and non-utterance gifts. And the Bible does not say some gifts are utterance and some are non-utterance, but you can see that if you read them, for example, there’s the gift of teaching, there is the gift of pastor-teacher, there is the gift of evangelist; these gifts are utterance gifts. We place a great deal of importance on utterance gifts because we haven’t studied the New Testament very well."

The link below is one of his sermons on the gift of tongues. Would you be able to read and comment on that sermon, also. Thanks.

http://www.sljinstitute.net/sermons/new%20testament/pauls/pages/1corinth_39.html

Judy

Oct 28, 2013

Very clear, very good. Thanks!

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